​​Grimes: Pop Star Diplomacy and the Avant-Garde | Doomscroll

If you think just simply talking to someone or being known to have been in the same room as someone is like a crime because it might convince people of some crazy political ideology, then how can you expect people to vote? It's like the very thing that you're warning against, the very thing that you're warning [music] against belies an opinion that you do not think democracy is valid and you do not like trust humans to rationally [music] move through the world. Welcome to Doomscroll. I'm your host Joshua Cinderella.

My guest is Grimes, an artist and musician. >> To me, the biggest imminent threat is just outsourcing thinking. I think that's a really dangerous thing to do. A couple years ago, I I was I said I was like, "Hey guys, like I do not think this is a safe thing for kids." I do not think like when you have a developing brain, probably before 24, 25, you should be using a tool that can write for you.

I think that's an incredibly dangerous thing. Um and studies have been coming out that it is causing uh like neural like brain atrophy basically. >> AI is on children >> if you use it to I think it was this was on adults. >> Yeah.

>> Um but >> like just straight up Chad GBT without a rapper is in my opinion probably not safe for a developing brain. >> That's just me. Like I don't know like I I think we probably need and want more data but I'm also tired of experimenting on kids of smoking McDonald's and now we're going to do it with this you know social media. So >> yeah Doritos right this like synthesized in a laboratory to like excite all of your senses beyond any capacity that a like medieval pen peasant would possibly experience and then it's just like oh yeah let's give that to every child in the entire country.

>> Well I feel that way about social media also iPads. Have you seen these like toddlers trying to zoom in on the magazine pages? >> Oh, no. But that's dark.

>> It's dark. Yeah. >> Um, >> so, so what then, uh, how do we respond to that if it poses a threat toward childhood development? >> It honestly makes more sense to me or the thing ...