EP17 Engineering Victory with Elon

it's hardcore history so my apologies if um today's show sounds a little like you're joining a conversation that's already in progress but this has happened with me before where i'll be talking with someone about something usually over a long period of time messaging back and forth or whatever it might be and i'll think to myself usually a little too late in the game wow you know should have thought about making this a podcast i mean more people than just yours truly might want to hear what's being said here and that's how today's show got started just an ongoing discussion that at a certain point um you look at it and you go well i should have started recording a long time ago but uh so if it sounds like you're picking up the conversation in the middle of it you might be i've never been that good in the conversations or the interviews as you probably know if you've heard me i've really liked setting it up and starting at ground zero and building from a from a place of no knowledge and eventually getting somewhere in the conversation that's interesting we just go right to the interesting and i hope we can all i hope it all makes sense without having all the background but that's what today's program will be like so i had a conversation that was ongoing about of all things um military aircraft especially military aircraft in the second world war at times it got very specific you know the p-38 american fighter plane in the second world war um but i was having a discussion with elon musk and um we were talking about uh the role of engineers in warfare and that's a famous history right go back to archimedes supposedly killed by the roman soldier when he's doodling in the sand and he didn't want to be interrupted and he'd made all those supposedly i think mythbusters well in their own way figured out that some of this stuff probably wouldn't work but you know they're not archimedes either but you know the history of warfare with these engineers creating weapons and of course in the modern world those people are monumentally more important than they were in primitive times although somebody invented a bow and arrow someday the early military engineers um but mr musk and ...