Episode #233 ... A philosophy of self-destruction. (Dostoevsky, Bataille)

Hello everyone. I'm Steven West. This is Philosophize this. patreon.com/f philosophize this.

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I mean, elephants apparently have done this sort of thing in captivity. You know, certain bees have to die to be able to sting someone, I guess. But by and large, self-destructive behavior is a uniquely human activity. For some reason, people often make a choice to destroy a little piece of themselves just to feel a little bit better in the short term.

But why would anybody do this realistically? I mean, if what we are are rational, survivaloriented creatures, shouldn't most of this behavior just be unthinkable to us? Maybe that's the problem. that that's a horrible description of what being a human being is to be rational survival oriented.

There's a lot of theories out there about this stuff. But there's two very interesting ones I'd like to tell you about today that make up what you could call a philosophy of self-destruction. One can be found in the work of Dostki in his book The Gambler. It's a lesserk known work of his and it'll help dramatize all the complex psychology behind this.

Give us a more existential take on why we do it. And number two is going to be the philosophy of Gor Batai, an absolute legend in the world of philosophy that we've never talked about on the show before, but he has a very interesting way of framing this self-destructive behavior. One that comes ultimately from a hidden underlying economics of all places. And it's one that as your philosophical sherpa, I think it compliments Dostki really well and it's definitely going to be worth your time.

So let's get into it. Dstvki spent most of his life struggling with different kinds of self-destructive behavior himself. He smoked cigarettes, which many people think led to his death. There was alcohol, though it's up for debate how much he actually did that with his epilepsy.

But more than anything, without a doubt, there was the total obsession that he had with gambling. That was the big one for him. Roulette ...