Liz Franczak: Conspiracy and Techno-Capitalism | Doomscroll

in that kind of like early blogosphere which was like Simon Reynolds and Mark Fiser and all those guys. >> How seriously should we take this Nick Lan stuff? >> You hear this all the time this kind of nationalist thing or abundance whatever it's all flavors of a lot of the same critique in my opinion >> which is like we don't build anything anymore. We need to start building again.

What about America? We don't build anything. It's like babe we build a lot. We build a lot of data centers.

>> The Epstein files are hosted on Google Drive. [laughter] Welcome to Doomscroll. I'm your host Joshua Cinderella. My guest is Liz Franzac, a co-host of the True and Podcast.

In Freud's book on on jokes and slips, he has this this joke that is like this guy's at a party and he works for he works for some like millionaire and he's like a I don't know, he's like an assistant or like a >> shoe shiner or something or whatever, but he really wants to like brag about his >> low on the totem pole. >> Low on the totem pole, but he really wants to like brag about his relationship with this millionaire at this party. >> Mhm. and he says, "Oh, well, you know, he treats me very familiarly and everyone laughs and the guy is really embarrassed and it's this like, you know, for Freud, he's like, okay, well, this is something about the man's own humiliation >> and he's trying to make a joke at his own expense, but he humiliates himself in the process." You know, it's like the very rich text, right?

>> Yeah. Yeah. >> And Lan says, "No, no, no. It's not just that.

It's that this joke could only be made at this moment because it's at this moment that the family is being replaced by the millionaire. >> And so for him, it's this in this text, it's this scene of the turn of the century when we've got the rise of the capitalist and the rise of the millionaire that is replacing this sort of older social form, right? And so he says that, you know, isn't this incredible that we have this ability to sort of um say these things, you know, that we can understand something about history in this moment that ...