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Felix biederman: Zohran in NYC

The Liberal Media's Young Men Obsession

Joshua Cinderella, host of Doom Scroll, sat down with Felix Beerman to discuss what he calls a "vicarious humiliation" listening to liberal pundits talk about young men for the past decade.

"Everyone sounds like an idiot when they talk about this," Beerman said, describing how liberal media outlets have oscillated between claiming young men are irredeemably stupid and then suddenly declaring them the only arbiters of culture that politics must appeal to.

Felix biederman: Zohran in NYC

The conversation emerged after exit polling showed young men aged 18-29 supported Zoron by a plus-40 margin in 2024, representing a massive shift toward the right.

The Real Story: Class Erosion

Beerman argues the media is missing the elephant in the room: the working class coalition has shifted dramatically toward the right.

"Young people are being proletarianized," Beerman explained. "We have an eroding middle class and their vote is actually just in the same kind of gradation shifting with working people."

He describes how voters who supported Trump in 2024 then voted for Zoron a year later, representing a backlash against the current administration. The explanation mirrors what happened in multiple Trump districts in Virginia—voters rewarding the opposition as a protest vote.

Why Zoron Won

The conversation turns to why Zoron succeeded where figures like Alexandria Ocasio Cortez failed. Beerman identifies several factors:

"He is probably the single best communicator in American left-of-center politics," Beerman said, noting Zoron's debate performances were "perfectly run campaigns."

More importantly, Zoron never condescenses to people. Unlike other candidates who engage in what Beerman calls "the Good Man project"—where figures like Hugo Schwitzer would lecture young men about how to improve their lives—Zoron simply presents his five main issues and lets voters rise to the occasion.

"They can hear you calling them idiots," Beerman noted. "They know they're being called dumb dumbs."

The candidate's affirmative defense during primary controversies, particularly around Israel, paid off in ways no recent American politician has achieved besides Rashida Tlet.

The Cost of Living Election

Both hosts discuss how economic dissatisfaction drives voting patterns across incumbent administrations worldwide. Four-point corrections based on inflation and dissatisfaction explain part of Zoron's enormous swing—but not all of it.

"There's been an enormous amount of media attention on this particular topic," Beerman observed, noting that young women also swung 11 points toward the right, while young men swung 15 points.

The real story is generational: as voters age and acquire property, family responsibilities, and stakes in society, their voting behavior shifts. But for young people currently being proletarianized, economic anxiety translates directly into political populism.

"Young people are being proletarianized. Their vote is actually just in the same kind of gradation shifting with working people."

Counterarguments

Critics might note that framing this entirely as an economic story minimizes cultural factors—particularly issues around gender, social progress, and identity politics that clearly motivated segments of voters. The article itself acknowledges young women also shifted right by 11 points, suggesting the class explanation doesn't fully account for gendered voting patterns.

Bottom Line

This conversation reveals why Democrats have lost their working-class coalition: economic anxiety is now driving political populism on both sides. Beerman's strongest insight is that liberal media has spent a decade obsessing over young men as a cultural phenomenon when the real story is simpler—class erosion affects everyone, and voters are responding to it. The vulnerability lies in whether economic framing adequately captures gender-specific shifts that also moved sharply right.

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Felix biederman: Zohran in NYC

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He got his start as a white Black Panther, as a white Jewish Black Panther. >> What? >> Yeah. >> Okay.

>> You obviously know about like, the SDS kids and the trots that became neocons and like that. There were so many people in Trump 1 who got canned instantly because there was an article in the Daily Beast about them like >> Yep. concocting some weird speedball with like Sealis and Gratom and like driving a car into a woman's house even though they were nominated to be surgeon general or something. Are we still playing neoliberalism versus social democracy?

>> I think we have to nationalize like everything. Welcome to Doomscroll. I'm your host Joshua Cinderella. My guest is Felix Beerman, a co-host of the Chapo Trap House podcast.

The most common refrain on every left-wing podcast is, "What are we doing wrong? Why is the left losing?" We're here today just past the threshold of a pretty historic election. And I finally get to ask the question, why is the left winning? The way I always answered that question, why are we losing?

It's kind of the same way I would answer the usually similarly paced question, what's wrong with young men? I would always say nothing. They're perfect. But now I've been vindicated.

That's my next question actually. Yeah. So, exit polling seems to indicate that young men, 18 to 29 had a plus 40 margin in favor of Zoron. 2024, we had basically a year of discussion that like young men were not savable, that electoral politics was foregone, they swung heavily towards Trump in the previous election.

how do we explain the difference in these two outcomes? >> I was kind of fascinated by like the year-long self flagagillation in liberal quarters about young men specifically. >> I get like I it's not just specific to this election, but like really for the last 10 years I would get vicarious humiliation listening to people talk about this. like it's, everyone sounds like an when they talk about this.

Obviously, the right-wing like, you need you need to ration your jerking off in this way and like do this and either like go to a company and sweep the floor to show them that you're a hard worker or fig figure out the genetic composition of their board of directors. Like that's obviously silly, ...