Vivek Chibber: What is Socialism Today? | Doomscroll

This is an a effect of the college educated liberal left that doesn't reflect realities about workers. It reflects their hatred of workers. It reflects their contempt of workers. The working class itself is moving along.

It's become multi-racial. It's much more cosmopolitan. It's much more inviting. It's much more open.

The problem is with the intellectuals that they cannot let go of this image. And it's cuz they don't want to let go of it because it deprivives them of their favorite talking points. by why they want to keep on poor people. That's all it is.

>> Welcome to Doomscroll. I'm your host Joshua Citerella. My guest is VC Chibber, a professor of sociology at New York University. [music] He is the author of many books including Confronting Capitalism.

He is the editor of Catalyst Journal and the host of the Confronting Capitalism podcast. People will argue that capitalism creates its own gravediggers. Is that true? >> Uh, in a very qualified sense, it's true.

and and maybe what do we mean by that specifically? >> So this was something that Markx and Engles wrote in the communist manifesto in 1848 and what they essentially were saying was that capitalism is brutal, exploitative, oppressive, but this system which seems to be so horrible is actually coming in with a time stamp and that time stamp is that the very people who it's treating the worst are the ones who are going to overthrow it. right now. First of all, that for about 50 years that seemed to be coming true because all the way until the 1920s, Western Europe was royal with a series of revolutions, some successful, >> most unsuccessful, but still it was what you would call a revolutionary opening.

And the grave was right there. >> It was just a question of pushing capitalism into it, >> right? >> Um, by the 19 by the middle of the century, that moment had gone. And so that grave had been filled up and nobody was going to go into that grave anymore.

So in a very narrow sense, it's false to say that it created its own gravediggers. It turned out that the people who were digging the graves just ended up lying down next to it really unhappy, tired, and unable to do anything about it. M but in a wider sense it's true which ...