Ilya Sutskever – We're moving from the age of scaling to the age of research

You know what's crazy that all of this is real? >> Yeah. Meaning what? >> Don't you think so?

>> Meaning what? >> Like all this AI stuff and all this area. Yeah. That it's happen like >> isn't it straight out of science fiction?

>> Yeah. Another thing that's crazy is like how normal the slow takeoff feels. The idea that we'd be investing 1% of GDP in AI, like I feel like it would have felt like a bigger deal, you know, where right now it just feels like >> you get used to things pretty fast. Turns out Yeah.

But also it's kind of like it's abstract like what does it mean? What it means that you see it in the news. >> Yeah. >> That such and such company announced such and such dollar amount, >> right?

>> That's that's all you see, >> It's not really felt in any other way so far. >> Yeah. Should we actually begin here? I think this is an interesting discussion.

>> Sure. >> I think your point about well from the average person's point of view, nothing is that different will continue being true even into the singularity. >> No, I don't think so. Okay.

Interesting. >> So the thing which I was referring to not feeling different is okay. So such and such company announced some difficult to comprehend dollar amount of investment >> right >> I don't think anyone knows what to do with that. >> But I think that the impact of AI is going to be felt.

>> AI is going to be diffused through the economy. There are very strong economic forces for this and I think the impact is going to be felt very strongly. >> When do you expect that impact? I think the models seem smarter than their economic impact would imply.

>> Yeah, this is one of the very confusing things about the models right now. How to reconcile the fact that they are doing so well on evals. >> Mhm. And you look at the evals and you go, those are pretty hard evals, >> They're doing so well, >> but the economic impact seems to be dramatically behind.

And it's almost like it's it's very difficult to make sense of how can the model on the one hand do these amazing things and then on the other ...